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re: titer
 By ahwayakchih - Posted on February 2, 2003 - 11:15:41   (#5695)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
nope. i used that "fix for too much ram" longe before i tried VLC. I have it for a looong time now. and old versions of vlc didn't throw me to KDL. so it's not that.

Re: still KDL
 By titer - Posted on February 2, 2003 - 09:39:43   (#5693)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
VLC has no reason to crash your system, your BeOS install probably does something wrong when it is asked for many resources. I had a similar problem once, I solved it thanks to the "A fix for too much RAM" tip at betips.net.

HTH

still KDL
 By ahwayakchih - Posted on February 2, 2003 - 08:44:15   (#5692)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
5beta3 still thrws me to KDL after watching divx (i tried different files) for a few minutes (~5 maybe ~10).

Odd problem
 By stephenb - Posted on February 1, 2003 - 22:57:20   (#5688)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
In the last day or so, VLC has started acting really weird. The stable version is refusing to play video at all and the CVS version is messing up the audio.

I tried playing the same files with the same version of VLC on a test R5 install I have and it worked fine. It also used to work just fine on this machine (P3 450, RadeonDDR 32MB).

Since then, I've restarted media, restarted, deleted and re-downloaded VLC. Nothing has worked so far.

Any suggestions?

test3 seems more stable but sound is terrible.
 By Karina - Posted on January 18, 2003 - 07:24:48   (#5428)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Playing any video on my system gives somewhat choppy and very garbled sound, vlc 0.5.0t1 and t2 were superior in this respect although this version seems to be more crash resistant.

My system

Via EPIA-800 Mini-itx
Via Erza 800MHz
256MB-PC133 RAM
SIS 6326 8MB PCI Video
Via VT1612A(3058) AC97 onboard sound.
WD 400JB 40gig HDD
LG16x10x40 CDRW
etc. etc. etc.

BeOS R5.03/Bone7a

Crash and SC
 By DaaT - Posted on January 17, 2003 - 14:19:15   (#5418)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Hey guys, nice to see an update :)

I fired it up and loaded a DVD (Dancer in the Dark) which worked fine in the Test 1. The sound is still choppy from Test 2, though not as much. But when i clicked on a menu, it crashed, here's the sc:

loading symbols
segment violation occurred
dvdplay_read:
dvdplay_read:
+009b eae34907: * 08528b movl 0x00000008(%edx), %edx
input:sc
frame retaddr
fd1a7b10 eae30854 dvdplay_Read + 000000c8
fd1a7b4c 800155c4 input_FillBuffer + 000002d0
fd1a7b80 80015811 input_Peek + 00000031
fd1a7b98 eafff9f6 ReadPS + 0000002e
fd1a7bc0 eae31370 Demux + 00000040
fd1a7c04 800142af RunThread + 0000058f
fd1a7c3c ec05032c thread_start + 00000038
input:

Hope it helps, keep up the great work.
DaaT

unsupported subtitles ( korea subtitle)
 By tarjan - Posted on January 12, 2003 - 16:38:38   (#5310)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
http://tarjan.bekrage.net/tmp/vlc_divx_subtitle_English_Good.jpg
http://tarjan.bekrage.net/tmp/vlc_divx_subtitle_korean_error.jpg
http://tarjan.bekrage.net/tmp/vlc_divx_subtitle_korean_utf-8error.jpg

See the screen shot!!!!

Edited by dolgogi ( korea beos korea patcher)the lower part desciption for korea subtitle play

(hm understanding my poor english ehe~)

pnm raw formatted fonts which is compressed in rle are required to view subtitles in korean. At present, this type of fonts is the only one that is needed to view divx subtitles. A patch to configure the vlc divx subtitles' enconding to utf is required as well.

There is 'gimp add-on' using gimp perl module, which is hacked by a british to view divx subtitles in vlc.

1. there should be gimp, gimp perl module and a patched font-makeing script installed on Linux box.
2. make pnm raw formatted image file using utf-9 korean part of the extracted fonts from korean bitmap fonts.
3. add utf-8 korean codes into the image file and run the script to compress in rle.

In the above procedures, we can make korean fonts which can be used in vlc, theoretically.

But it failed. Hancom Linux was installed on the testbed system.

Own thoughts on the reasons why it was failed are :
1. the script can recognised alphabetic codes only (1 byte characters).
2. used gimp is not patched to use korean.
and etc...


Feature request
 By BePage - Posted on January 12, 2003 - 15:40:08   (#5306)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Hi,

it would be nice to have some keys to controle basic funktions like fullscreen and so on.
If you know PowerDVD it shows a little controle interface when you move the mouse curser to the top of the screen. That would be nice too.

greetings
BePage

unsupported subtitles
 By titer - Posted on January 11, 2003 - 17:27:15   (#5282)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Thanks for this great feedback ! That helps a lot for debugging. If you have unreadable movies / unusable subtitle files, please enter a bug report at http://bugzilla.videolan.org/ with a link to the file. In that way, all vlc developers could have a look at it (few people read bebits talkback ;) ). Thanks.

non-western subtitles
 By s_d - Posted on January 11, 2003 - 00:38:43   (#5279)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
i think that for non-western subtitles in best case you need specially hacked (or old) fonts, where characters for upper part of western codepage (128-255) are replaced with korean. accordingly to korean codepage.
But AFAIK koreans has multiple codepages, so you need quite big font set.

Another possibility - to look at VLC sources and try to patch it for usage of BeOS native encoding - UTF-8. In this case you can simply reencode existing titles to UTF-8 - this seems better solution

how to see proper Korea language subutile file, hm
 By tarjan - Posted on January 10, 2003 - 18:50:38   (#5268)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
subtitle
--sub-file <string> subtitle file name
--sub-fps <float> override frames per second
--sub-delay <integer> delay subtitles (in 1/10s)
--sub-type [microdvd|subrip|ssa1|ssa2-4]
subtitle type

======Test (English language subtitle file[ ssa(ssa2-4), srt(subrip), smi ]========
baron@:~/Desktop/Sub# vlc --sub-type ssa2-4 --sub-file E.SSA Stuart.Little.2-PosTX.avi
VideoLAN Client 0.5.0-test2 Natalya
[00000123] main input: playlist item `Stuart.Little.2-PosTX.avi'
[00000123] avi input: subtitle started
No accelerated IMDCT transform found

result: i can See subtitle (English language subtitle file, --sub-type ssa2-4 --sub-file E.SSA)

==================
baron@:~/Desktop/Sub# vlc --sub-type subrip --sub-file E.SRT Stuart.Little.2-PosTX.avi
VideoLAN Client 0.5.0-test2 Natalya
[00000123] main input: playlist item `Stuart.Little.2-PosTX.avi'
[00000123] avi input: subtitle started
No accelerated IMDCT transform found

result:i Can`t see subtitle(English language subtitle file, --sub-type subrip --sub-file E.SRT)

==================
baron@:~/Desktop/Sub# vlc --sub-file E.SMI Stuart.Little.2-PosTX.avi
VideoLAN Client 0.5.0-test2 Natalya
[00000123] main input: playlist item `Stuart.Little.2-PosTX.avi'
[00000124] demuxsub private error: unknown subtitile file
No accelerated IMDCT transform found

result: i guess smi subtitle format (not suported by VLC)

\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
that`s too bad :(

if play vlc with korea language subtitle(with ssa type), i Can`t seeproper subtitle.
i guess for See proper korea language sutitle, be required new font file instead of font-eutopiabold36.rle
are i Right?

http://tarjan.bekrage.net/tmp/vlc_divx_subtitle_English_Good.jpg See the screen shot!!!!
http://tarjan.bekrage.net/tmp/vlc_divx_subtitle_korean_error.jpg See the screen shot!!!!

i ask for new font (Suport korea language subtitle file), Any ideas???

KDL message
 By fye - Posted on January 10, 2003 - 16:52:53   (#5265)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Unfortunaetly, after watching about for 10 minutes, I also got thrown into the KDL with some divx movies.. I don't know a sh*t about debugging, so I'll paste everything that was written. If you need some commands to be put, tell me, I can reproduce the same error again. It seems like a memory issue... so here is the message, I hope it will help.


PANIC: ** error cache can'T allocate data memory
kernel debugger: Welcome...
eax 00000000 ebp fd1c5a78 cs 0008 | area 05cba768 (kernel_intel_text)
ebx 0000002a esp fd1c5954 ss 0010 | addr 00100000
ecx 00177f3a edi 0000001a ds 0010 |
edx 00000000 esi fd1c5978 es 0010 | Thread: input
eip 00120461 flag 00000246 fs 1acb | Team /boot/home/Appz/vlc-0.5.0-test2/vlc
trap ffffffff err 00000000 gs 0000 | stack Trace follows

00000000 00120461
fd1c5a78 00139af6
fd1c5c74 0013aa02
fd1c5ca4 68162642
fd1c5d18 00142fa3
fd1c5d50 00147f59
fd1c5d78 0015e0fe
fd1c5a10 ec08465b --- i frame ----
fd1c1a10 800511b9
fd1c1a70 800361e4
fd1c1aa4 800c0390
fd1c2268 80034edf
fd1c22a0 ec0851ed


Titer
 By DaaT - Posted on January 10, 2003 - 14:59:19   (#5263)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Thanks for your replying. You guys are doing a terrific job with VLC, it's one of the "must-have" apps for BeOS. Can't wait for the menu and sound problems to get fixed :)

DaaT

Re: subtitles
 By titer - Posted on January 10, 2003 - 13:40:47   (#5261)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Arggg, my fault... I forgot to include the font in the package. You can still download the missing file from http://videolan.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/vlc/share/


subtitles
 By bug-yugo - Posted on January 10, 2003 - 13:03:36   (#5260)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
btw, vlc is awesome. I can't watch DivX movies in WindowsXP(sound not in sync with movie, choppy, slow).. In BeOS works like a charm!
Now, about subtitles. I've tried what you've told me, but I get this error message:
$ /boot/apps/vlc-0.5.0-test2/vlc Film.avi --sub-file Prevod.txt
VideoLAN Client 0.5.0-test2 Natalya
[00000123] main input: playlist item `Film.avi'
[00000123] avi input: subtitle started
[00000128] spudec video output error: can't open font file './share/font-eutopiabold36.rle' (No such file or directory)
[00000125] spudec decoder error: unable to load font: ./share/font-eutopiabold36.rle

Any thought?
Once again, great app!

subtitles, brightness
 By titer - Posted on January 10, 2003 - 01:31:44   (#5251)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
bug-yugo: At this time, subtitles are only usable via the command line interface (--sub-file <file>). It will be added to the GUI ASAP.

AlienSoldier: Preferences saving is not implemented yet, but I'll have a look.

Shard: vlc never brings me to KDL - actually, no application shouldn't. Any interesting messages in KDL ?

Daat: there are many known bugs in the DVD menus management, there are being investigated.

ALL: crappy sound / sync issues are being fixed.

subtitles in 0.50 test2
 By bug-yugo - Posted on January 8, 2003 - 23:09:42   (#5220)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
How to get subtitles in DivX movie in 0.50 test2?
I have on divx CD .avi file and one txt file with translated subtitles. Works OK in Windows.

time to please me now :)
 By AlienSoldier - Posted on January 8, 2003 - 19:28:40   (#5213)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
i have a crapy monitor so the brightness option is a god send to me, problem is that it does not save setting. Also is it done hardware as part of the overlay feature or does it imply a performance hit?

KDL
 By ahwayakchih - Posted on January 8, 2003 - 15:30:15   (#5210)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
4.6a and 5.0test2 throws me to KDL after watching divx is for a few minutes.
Can it be because of watching movies from BFS?

Notes on the latest unstable version.
 By BGA - Posted on January 7, 2003 - 23:28:01   (#5204)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
1 - Audio seems to be perfect here. No sound skipping or anything (emu10k based audio card).

2 - Yes, 0.5.0 works as I thought it should concerning the overlay channel. Thanks!

3 - For the first time I was able to use the DVD menu support as it *ALWAYS* crashed here. Very cool!

-Bruno

Audigy audio on VLC test2
 By verranm - Posted on January 7, 2003 - 22:36:46   (#5203)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
I get choppy audio too, but maybe its an Audigy issue...

Any other cards working/not working?

the sound issue
 By fye - Posted on January 7, 2003 - 20:22:23   (#5202)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
just dropped by to say that the sound issue DaaT has mentioned is also true for divx and other format movies. the same movies that produce choppy sound with vlc 0.4.5-test2 has no problems with vlc 0.4.4

but this is really coming along great, thanks a lot! :)

Yep, it's confirmed
 By DaaT - Posted on January 7, 2003 - 20:07:40   (#5201)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
With this new release, the sound _is_ choppy, just tested it with another DVD. But you guys are heading in the right direction :)

DaaT

Choppy sound and crash
 By DaaT - Posted on January 7, 2003 - 20:04:15   (#5200)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Hi,
First of all, GREAT work you guys are doing, VLC rocks :)
With this latest version i can now watch the Depeche Mode DVD i bought. With the previous test version, upon clicking on a menu it would crash, not anymore. But sound now is choppy, very. I haven't tried it with other DVDs. I stopped playback and after clicking Play again, VLC crashed. Here's the sc:

loading symbols
segment violation occurred
dvdplay_highlight:
dvdplay_highlight:
+004a 80118762: *0000047f088c8b movl 0x0000047f(%eax,%ecx,1), %ecx
input:sc
frame retaddr
fd1a72b4 8005dac2 pf_vmg_callback + 00000202
fd1a72ec 80118cd7 ProcessPCI + 00000093
fd1a730c 80118ee4 ReadNav + 00000098
fd1a7330 80117f08 dvdplay_nav + 00000088
fd1a7b50 80117f6a dvdplay_read + 00000052
fd1a7b7c 8005d6e1 dvdplay_Read + 000000bd
fd1a7bb0 800361e4 input_FillBuffer + 000002d0
fd1a7be4 80035136 InitThread + 000001de
fd1a7c00 80034973 RunThread + 00000023
fd1a7c3c ec05032c thread_start + 00000038
input:

Hope it helps, keep up the great work.
DaaT

P.S.: I'm running Dano. Oh btw, i stopped the playback because i went into the settings and changed the mpeg slider one notch to the right.

heh, seems to work ok on BFS
 By ahwayakchih - Posted on December 20, 2002 - 13:52:24   (#4929)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
now i'll have to reinitialize my movies partition ;]

choking
 By ahwayakchih - Posted on December 20, 2002 - 12:31:31   (#4927)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
hmm i don't think my comp is to slow (athlon 1ghz, 512mb ddr ram).
Yes i keep them on fat32... maybe that's why vlc chokes in windoze too. I'll try to watch movie from bfs.

Overlay, chokes
 By titer - Posted on December 20, 2002 - 11:09:45   (#4926)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
BGA: this should have already been fixed in 0.5.

Shard: I guess it starts chocking when CPU utilization reaches 100%. You just need more power, it usually happens if you store files on a FAT drive or/and if your computer is not so fast.

Chokes after some time
 By ahwayakchih - Posted on December 18, 2002 - 11:04:38   (#4865)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
When watching bigger files (divx movie) VLC starts to "choke" sound after some time. But it's not releated to actually watching movie only, because when i start to play it and than seek more than about 30min of movie it starts to choke again. Like it couldn't hanle bigger file properly or something...

Thank you!
 By hitech - Posted on December 18, 2002 - 09:58:38   (#4864)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
This is one of the best video players aviable for BeOS.
I just want to thank the developers. Good work!

Overlay suggestion.
 By BGA - Posted on December 16, 2002 - 23:32:51   (#4834)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Right now, vlc tries to allocate an overlay bitmap and if it fails, it just ignores it and go on playing the video file so you actually only get audio and no video (as another application is using the overlay). It would be cool if vlc detected the failure when creating the overlay bitmap and, them, reverted to the DrawBitmap method.

-Bruno

Crash with wmv
 By cvincent - Posted on December 14, 2002 - 12:24:32   (#4781)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
I try to open a wmv file and vlc crash ;(
you can conact me for more details


Bugs in 0.5.0-test1
 By industroslaad - Posted on December 13, 2002 - 23:35:48   (#4778)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Hey,

Just a few things;
a) If you open the preference panel and click "Cancel" it seems to do nothing. I'm imagining it should close the Preference panel.

b) When ever I click on a menu VLC hangs. I've tried with Fight Club (14254SDW, presumably the Australian version) and Project Pitchfork - Collector (0927 47719-2, German). The last few lines in Terminal read;
libdvdplay warning: PGC pre commands didn't do a Jump, Link or Call
libdvdplay debug: retrieving current title
libdvdplay debug: retrieving angle info

If I CTRL-C the app in Terminal it starts to shutdown and hangs... CTRL-C tries to die "badly" but still doesn't finish shutting down leaving behind a non-responsive Video Window. However if I Vulcan Death Grip the entry in the Deskbar it'll kill it properly.

Other than that, keep up the good work.

If you need more info email me.

Re: PPC
 By titer - Posted on December 13, 2002 - 22:13:31   (#4777)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
There is no PPC port because it would require a PPC, and I don't know any vlc developer who has one ;)
A nice PPC user gave me a telnet access to his computer a few months ago and I managed to make vlc compile on it, but it crashed at start up and I had no way to debug this. I also got a old PPC a few weeks ago but BeOS does not run on it :(
If somebody here owns a running BeOS PPC box and has some developer knowledge, be sure we'll be glad to help him porting vlc.

PPC
 By jo.farmer - Posted on December 13, 2002 - 19:49:49   (#4774)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Why no PPC Port? Many video cards in use with Macs have overlay...

So far so good
 By DaaT - Posted on December 13, 2002 - 15:43:41   (#4771)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
with this new version. Only tried it on one CD (on my lunch hour, i'll try with more later), and had no problems with Menu access, and the movie playback itself. One small thing though, when in full screen, i click on a menu to select it, the VLC window (with the playback controls etc) comes to the front, i have to click the playback window again to make it front most. Just a small thing, albeit bit annoying after a while :) All in all, i'm loving this new "unstable" version, great work guys.

DaaT

Nice Work
 By mikael - Posted on December 13, 2002 - 14:11:15   (#4767)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Guys!
Many thanks for keeping it so uptodate..
You are doing a wonderful job.

/Konrad

Re: FAT32
 By titer - Posted on December 13, 2002 - 08:26:14   (#4760)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
MPEG are quite readable from a FAT drive because video and audio are always correctly interleaved. This is not true with AVI files : sometimes the audio frame corresponding to a picture is not at the same place in the file at all, then vlc must seek a lot... that's why some "good" AVIs may play quite smoothly, and others won't. Did you try the unstable build ? The AVI demultiplexer has been mostly rewritten. Unfortunatly (fortunatly ? ;) I have no FAT drive to test it, I am wondering if it is fast enough yet. One more tip : if you're using WinNT/2k/XP or linux, reading from NTFS or ext2/3 is quite fast.

Re Re: FAT32
 By tb100 - Posted on December 12, 2002 - 15:36:46   (#4738)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
I realise that FAT32 is not a media filesystem - however as I run PE (with a 1gig image file) I only have around 100MB free on my BFS disk, so most of my media is on my windows drive.

Playing an MPG off FAT32 works - yes, the input thread is a bit higher than off BFS, but it works. However, if you try to skip to a different point in the file, after that the whole input gets screwed up. This is where the input thread CPU usage is at 100% for half a second, then 20% for half a second, then back up to 100%, then 20%, etc. DivXs are like that from the start (you don't need to do any seeking to get this behaviour with DivX). Seems more like a bug than just the fact FAT32 is slower - I'm using the replacement driver, by the way.

Keep up the good work.

FAT32
 By titer - Posted on December 7, 2002 - 22:52:29   (#4644)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
Reading from a FAT32 volume requires much CPU (even with the replacement driver). That's why the input thread always eats more power if you're not reading on a BFS disk... especially with AVIs, as it needs many seeks in the file (more than mpegs). It has been optimized a bit in 0.5, but still, I vould recommand you don't store video files on a FAT volume :|

Making BIG progress
 By tb100 - Posted on December 7, 2002 - 18:47:56   (#4641)
 Current version when comment was posted: 0.4.6a
I hadn't tried vlc since 0.4.4 as I figured nothing much would have changed. Then I downloaded 0.4.6a - major changes:
-looks a lot more like BeOS media player (background, progress slider, time caption
-much lower CPU usage for simple mpg files (barely above idle on my K6/2 450!)
-playlist that actually works (pretty much)
-volume control takes effect in real-time, as it is dragged (this really annoyed me before)
-completly new speed menu (slow-mo, fast-mo, normal)
-A/V sync seems better
-DivX support improved

Good changes all around.

Now for the problems: I haven't got a DVD drive so i test it with files from my HD - some mpgs and divx. Getting the files of windows FAT32 drives seems to create problems - especially for divx, and if you attempt seeking in any file. Once copied to the BeOS disk, they seem much better. The exact problem seems to be in the input thread. After seeking, CPU usage fluctuates wildly between about 10% and near 90%, and sound and video get all mixed up (frames repeating, speed going wrong etc). With process controller, I looked at the threads in vlc and it is the "input" thread that is causing all the fluctuations. Any ideas?
As well as that, A/V sync could still be improved a bit, and I'd love it if pause took effect instantly. Also, sometimes (usually with divx) the sound sounds a bit flat (is it all being played slower or something). But overall, this app is making real progress - and when the 0.5 branch gets stable, it will probably become my default media player. Great work!

I like this app because although it is a port, it very much "feels" like a BeOS native app, due to the careful native interface design (unlike mozilla, for example). I actually use the app to show the superiority of the "Be" philosophy - by showing people the screenshot of the Be version and one from another port with all the pointlessly big, iconized buttons. It terms of intuitive use, you can't beat the Be interface.

Simon.

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