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| Re. Dual output |
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By edmundf - Posted on July 24, 2004 - 04:37:38 (#13549)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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| Dual output |
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By rudolfc - Posted on July 24, 2004 - 04:28:32 (#13548)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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Hi,
When TVout is active, a different modeline is in use. This modeline will be less compatible with VGA monitors, than the one used when you don't have TVout active and select 50Hz output with the Be prefs panel.
So: while your monitor can't display it (BeTVOut is probably working at it's best), it's no fault anywhere.
This means you can't use that feature for PAL TVoutput, although NTSC output probably works on your monitor (is 60Hz).
This issue can't be resolved, except on real dualhead cards 'in theory'. Hopefully I'll get to it to support that one day...
Hope this helps a bit :-)
Rudolf.
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| dual output problem. |
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By edmundf - Posted on June 17, 2004 - 16:05:32 (#12945)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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I have no picture on my monitor when I select dual output.
When I select 50Hz in screen prefs the monitor works.
Is this a monitor problem or something else?
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| cannot reach driver.. |
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By rudolfc - Posted on November 11, 2003 - 09:07:04 (#9591)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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Hi,
Can you have a look at the vendorID in 'preferences', 'devices', device VGA, tab 'info'?
I'd like to know what it says, and also the cardID.
The second reason for the cannot reach driver thing is the driver not recognizing your graphicscard. It must be nVidia to be recognized ATM.
Best regards,
Rudolf.
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| again |
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By _JuDgEn_ - Posted on November 7, 2003 - 05:46:09 (#9537)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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it must have something to do with the motherboard.
it is a shuttle fn41 nforce2 mobo.
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| I did NOT installed the driver incorrectly |
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By _JuDgEn_ - Posted on November 7, 2003 - 05:45:00 (#9536)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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I have installed all the files in the right dir´s
When i use the same installation by moving the disc to another computer is works flawlessly. but in the first computer with the same graphicscard i get the cannot reach the riva_iic driver. why is that?
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| Dev update.. |
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By rudolfc - Posted on November 3, 2003 - 14:41:09 (#9476)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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Hi,
Before BeTVOut's functionality moves into the (open)BeOS nVidia driver, I'll update it once or twice more.
BeTVOut is a very handy testing tool for setting up support for more TVout encoders, so I'll add Philips support and (better) GeForce 3/4/FX support here first, as far as is needed.
For instance it looks like one output connector is shut-off by the current versions of BeTVOut. If you encounter this, you could try to use the other VGA (or DVI with VGA adaptor) connector for now. This should be simple to fix BTW ;-)
I have two new cards here that I can test with:
A GeForce4Ti card with Philips chip;
and a GeForceFX card with another Philips chip.
It looks like the once hard to find Philips chips are widely used these days.
GeForce4MX support will be questionable: I don't expect internal nVidia TVout encoders to be working soon as this has never been done yet, and also no specs are available at all.
OK, that's all at this point.
Rudolf.
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| could not reach driver... |
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By rudolfc - Posted on November 3, 2003 - 14:05:50 (#9475)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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Hi!
If the BeTVOut app does not reach the driver you did _not_ correctly install the driver, or you don't have a nVidia card installed (with Vendor ID 0x10de: see 'Devices' panel, VGA device: 'info' tab).
In order to install the driver you need to do this (also in README file included with driver):
Driver Installation:
- Copy or link the file 'riva_iic' to the
/boot/home/config/add-ons/kernel/drivers/bin directory
- Create the
/boot/home/config/add-ons/kernel/drivers/dev/video/riva_iic directory
- Create a link to the 'riva_iic' file in the bin directory above in the
/boot/home/config/add-ons/kernel/drivers/dev/video/riva_iic directory
- Restart.
Good luck..
Best regards,
Rudolf.
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| I have a problem with this thingy.... |
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By _JuDgEn_ - Posted on November 3, 2003 - 05:54:31 (#9465)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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I have installed the driver. But when i run the app i get the following message
"BeTVOut V0.120 written by the BeTVOut team:
Rudolf Cornelissen; Email: RAG.Cornelissen@inter.NL.net
Michael Pfeiffer; Email: michael.pfeiffer@utanet.at
Could not reach 'riva_iic' driver, exiting... "
It is not a malfunctioning installation because it works on an other computer with the same graphicscard.
Dont really know what to do about it.....
Any ideas?
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| future dev direction |
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By rudolfc - Posted on May 30, 2003 - 16:30:39 (#7500)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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Hi there,
Thanks for your report :-)
I have to tell you I don't know how to get command line parameters into the app. That's why I did not set that up.
The second, more important reason is that I want to include the TVout functionality into a standard opensource Nvidia driver that would function as a replacement for the Be driver.
I'd rather spend my time on that now than on BeTVOut as it currently is. (It's more or less finished anyway..)
Bruno van Dooren has restarted work on the new Nvidia driver, so I'll work with him on this later on I hope.
ATM I am still very busy with completing my last project for school which is a 'writing BeOS videodrivers howto'. :)
A few more days and then I'll finally be able to actually code for BeOS again. My fingers are itching ;-)
Rudolf.
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| Works on ELSA Gladiac MX |
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By vitg - Posted on May 27, 2003 - 07:15:45 (#7453)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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Does the business on my GeForce 2 MX based ELSA card. Would any other info be useful?
Any chance of a version which just accepts args on the command line, e.g. BeTVOut --mode=800x600PAL, and then exits? At the moment I've hacked together some disgusting scripts so I can automate going to TV out and back, but it's a bit kludgy.
Thanks for your efforts getting it working at all though.
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| ATI TVout |
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By rudolfc - Posted on December 29, 2002 - 15:15:21 (#5037)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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Make sure please you inform Thomas Kurschel about this! (ATI Radeon driver on BeBits).
The reason BeTVOut exists in the form presented here, as a hack used in parallel to the Nvidia BeOS driver, is not what you really want. TVout support should be included in the real driver, which was inpossible for the Nvidia driver since it's closed source.
The Matrox and ATI driver however are opensource, so the driver code can be relatively easy extended to support TV output signals.
Because the ATI driver exists, I think you need to inform the author about your knowledge of the linux driver: I am sure he will be very interested (I talked to him about TVout support for ATI on BeGeistert :-)
If Thomas runs into trouble with the Linux code, I'll make sure to have a look at it with him: we can always see if it's useable for the BeOS driver ;-)
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About BeTVOut:
On boot BeOS loads the Nvidia driver to access the card to set modes. IF you remove the driver, a mode can be set via the vesa settings file that will be activated by the cards own BIOS.
BeTVOut has a driver (riva_iic) that also accesses the Nvidia card in parallel to the Nvidia driver or the cards BIOS, so to speak.
Maybe you are familiar with TVTool for windows: it works in the same way.
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About the node:
If you use the BeTVOut video consumer, this node will both load the Nvidia driver *and* the BeTVOut riva_iic driver. It uses both in parallel to set a TVout mode on the Nvidia card that you can use to watch a movie on a connected TV-set.
Rudolf.
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| Linux porting |
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By mr.W - Posted on December 29, 2002 - 13:24:32 (#5034)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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There seems to be a similar patch developed in linux
to set the ATI tvout(don't know the name of it). Couldn't anyone handy here port it ?
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| changes / video consumer node.. |
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By rudolfc - Posted on December 29, 2002 - 05:01:14 (#5030)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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Not much changed. I just wanted to make sure that:
- everyone knows that actually V0.120 is the latest version, and not 0.118. (You already had this version I think);
- the BeBits entry is finally up-to-date now to the app. I should have done that a long time ago...
- Most importantly (I think): I've added a new download on the site for the BeTVOut video consumer node. If you have a Matrox card *and* an Nvidia card supported by BeTVOut, you can actually insert both cards in your system and watch TV or a movie or something on your Nvidia card, while the Matrox card displays your Desktop.
This node is alpha software, so I cannot guarantee it works etc. however. The node *is* important though (at least for me ;-). I had to make known this code exists, because as far as I know noone ever created such a node outside of Be themselves. This 'example' Kevin Patterson wrote (costed a *lot* of work!), could be used by others to create a node for Matrox cards for example.
I for one want this very much: I would want to use VLC for example to watch DVD's on a TV that's connected to my computer, while the controls of VLC are on my Desktop displayed on another screen.
Note that VLC does not support that yet, but MK-mediaplayer will use the node, just like the TV app that comes with BeOS.
Well, that's all there is to know for now I think. I myself am still working on the Matrox driver for now (it's not finished yet), and I am approaching the moment that I will (finally) be working on the TVout / node support part of that driver.
This ought to be fun.. ;-)
Rudolf.
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| What changed? |
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By Ruprect - Posted on December 29, 2002 - 00:14:49 (#5028)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.120 |
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version 0.120 was there since April, right? What changed?
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| need some help plz |
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By falkan - Posted on July 20, 2002 - 08:31:53 (#2282)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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i've got a problem with my tv out
it doesn't work ;o(, i have a riva tnt2 agp m64/32 mb + tv out card.
and it doesn't work
i have also got the tv encoder conexant BT868, it says in my xp.
But i don't know what the problem is
i have read something about vesa? but i don't understand, could someone plz help me
tnx
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| cool |
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By Jess - Posted on June 24, 2002 - 17:05:33 (#1954)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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hey, novel idea! I'm actually on the system with the card in question... I have made it a dual boot so that I can use the card & play games but would still like to use the tv out in Be... Anyway the point to my follow up is I used to have my trident in this system & running in vesa only. I didn't find the performace bad for what I use this system for. so I will give that a shot & zip the driver up for this card so It backed up but the system wont see it ;) Thanks for the idea *~cyz~*
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| TVout without drivers |
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By rudolfc - Posted on June 24, 2002 - 13:48:47 (#1952)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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About Windows: I know the feeling ;-)
If you want TVout on any card that has it, while the BeOS driver does not support it, you simply need to remove the videodriver for that card and use VESA mode (VESA Accepted is a handy config util for VESA mode)
Your card needs to support VESA BIOS extensions 2.0 or higher for this to work though. VESA can be used in different resolutions and colorspaces but you'll need to set the resolution you want and then reboot for it to become active in BeOS (until someone creates a VESA 3.0 driver!).
Now the card remains outputting video itself as no OS driver kicks in, so it can output to TV also.
One downside more: You won't have 2D acceleration :-/
Carlos Hasan published different ATI drivers on BeBits: But no video-out (yet?) though...
Rudolf.
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| hmmm |
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By Jess - Posted on June 24, 2002 - 07:02:03 (#1948)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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First off I'd have to ask who is this "Carlos Hasan" & where would I go about looking for his contact info. Second off thanks for the reply & third My question as it stands now I guess would be simply why does the present driver for my card in Be kill the tv out. Again it works fine before I boot but then dies after Be has started. I don't see why it wouldnt simply "Pass through" the image being sent to the card as it does when the system is posting & or when I'm fishing around my Bios. Anyway It's not that big a deal to me till we have some decent emulators that can run full screen & such. Most our emulators imo are good starts but not good enough to use & those good enough to use simply have issues with my games... No emulators - TV isn't that important, but it all comes down to I JUST WANT TO NUKE WINDOWS!!!
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| ATI and MATROX TV-out |
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By rudolfc - Posted on June 24, 2002 - 02:19:44 (#1947)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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The only real reason I was able to setup TVout even in specific VCD and DVD modes was that the documentation for the TVout chips were available (more or less ;-)
ATI and MAtrox have 'own' TVout chips, and they refuse to give out the specs to them. This is why Matrox TVout on BeOS is not very good (though it might get a bit better in the (near) future). And this is why ATI TVout does not work at all.
IF you want the latest status on the subject, you could try to contact Carlos Hasan: He has looked at the subject the most AFAIK...
Best regards,
Rudolf.
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| no... Why would I? |
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By Jess - Posted on June 24, 2002 - 02:16:27 (#1946)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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No I did't try this Ati-tv - it is a Video CAPTURE driver. I want OUT not IN. Also it is for All in wonder cards & as I stated I don't have an all in wonder.
Quote:
About ATI-TV:
This is a TV Tuner and video capture driver for ATI All-in-Wonder 128, ATI All-in-Wonder Pro, ATI All-in-Wonder and ATI-TV boards.
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| did you try? |
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By rdoyle720 - Posted on June 24, 2002 - 00:27:59 (#1945)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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Did you try ATI-TV http://www.bebits.com/app/230?
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| Idea... |
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By Jess - Posted on June 23, 2002 - 21:24:03 (#1944)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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Does any one have any Idea on how to get a ATI tv out to work? I find it rather stupid that the Be Drive seems to kill the tv out. It works just fine in the post & bios so what the hell kills it in Be!? Anyway Since the ATI All in wonder is such a huge card for a long time for people that like to hook everythign up to their computers I find it odd there is no TV out for ATI cards. I however am not using the All in Wonder but use it as a simple stament that Ati is more known for the TV out setups. So Anyone got an Idea on how to get the tv working on an ATI?
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| Working great! |
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By Ruprect - Posted on June 23, 2002 - 20:09:47 (#1943)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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Well, I finally got my TV-out capable video card up and running. I ran all the available output modes of BeTVOut without problems: 640x480 color bar, 640x480 TV (single head mode), 800x600 TV (single and dual head mode). However, the dual head clone "hack" mode didn't work for me. Unimplemented?
Other than that, I'm very enthused. Great job so far!
Rob
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| looks great! |
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By aphex - Posted on April 27, 2002 - 14:00:03 (#1183)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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Looking forward to it, thanks ;)
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| missing GUI |
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By rudolfc - Posted on April 27, 2002 - 10:57:01 (#1180)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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The GUI will hopefully be provided by Kevin, he already did a great deal of work on it. You can actually see a screenshot on our website... ;-)
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| works great with my tnt2 |
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By aphex - Posted on April 23, 2002 - 07:50:39 (#1108)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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Thanks! The only thing im missing is an GUI ;-(
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| I think it should.. |
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By rudolfc - Posted on April 10, 2002 - 16:02:48 (#874)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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It should if it has a Chrontel CH7003-7008, Brooktree/Conexant BT868/869, or Conexant CX25870/25871 chip on it, and it's a TNT1, TNT2, TNT2-M64, GeForce256, GeForce2 (including MX/MX200/MX400) or GeForce3 card. The GeForce4 has built-in TVout chips and will probably not work.
If the cards docs say it supports HDTV or 1024x768 TVout resolution, it almost certain has a CX25871 chip on it.
Regards,
Rudolf.
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| MX400? |
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By Ruprect - Posted on April 10, 2002 - 15:38:20 (#873)
Current version when comment was posted: V0.118 |
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Wow, this looks great! I'm wondering if it will work for GeForce2 cards with s-video out. According to nVidia, it uses an MX400 chipset (or at least I think that's the chipset).
Sounds real promising.
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