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By Tek_No - Posted on June 20, 2005 - 23:36:02 (#16917)
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Hey Vaskas,
we first need to find out the PCI-ID or CARD-ID of your Travelmate's Radeon: while in BeOS goto Preferences - Devices - select VGA - then click "Configure".
Select the "Info" tab: you should see the Card ID of your Radeon over there (e.g. mine is 4c66)
With a little luck your Card ID is not included in the list of supported cards in the driver and maybe we'll be able to get it working by swapping it with a supported card id...
Take care,
Tek_No
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By vaskas - Posted on June 20, 2005 - 22:57:01 (#16915)
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This kind of Radeon is installed in my Acer TravelMate 2001LC laptop. Is there any hope for the driver to work with this hardware in future?
Still having to use vesa ;-(
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By Philippe Houdoin - Posted on June 20, 2005 - 10:03:33 (#16912)
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# Hey Philippe,
# did you already have the chance to check
# this out on your Asus laptop?
Chance? Several of them!
Time? No. Not yet.
But be sure I'll ASAP.
# Is this working for you or not?
Can't tell yet but it looks like a good workaround allready.
When I looked at the code, I've felt that was an issue somewhere in the clock multipliers and/or BIOS flat setup reading.
I guess BIOS clock setting is no more express per 10, but some bit indicates somehow we must multiply (or not) the pixel clock reg value... :-|
Nice job done, Tek_No.
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By kvdman - Posted on June 20, 2005 - 08:06:14 (#16911)
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You might want to try uninstalling the new driver, and installing version 3.7 (I believe) or earlier. I have a Radeon 7500 and anything after v3.7 of his driver produces garbled withe stuff and snow on my screen including v5.3. I'm not sure if he had the card ids for your card in the version i'm using, but it's worth a try.
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By Tek_No - Posted on June 19, 2005 - 22:57:53 (#16910)
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Hey Philippe,
did you already have the chance to check this out on your Asus laptop?
Is this working for you or not?
Take care,
Tek_No
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By requiemus - Posted on June 19, 2005 - 18:35:56 (#16908)
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this is the coolest thing since sliced bread. i love using beos. My pixel clock is 68625.
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By Tek_No - Posted on June 19, 2005 - 17:48:11 (#16907)
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Hey requiemus!
Great to hear it's working for you as well :)
Do you have the same pixel clock value as my ZT3000?
Take care,
Tek_No
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By requiemus - Posted on June 19, 2005 - 07:55:30 (#16904)
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dear Tek_No,
i have a compaq presario x1000 and have wanted to use Beos on this system for a while. I simply love Beos but was so very sad when i tried to use it. Now thanks to you I have my Beos back. I just recomplied the driver with my clock settings and it is working great. Again thankyou for your hard work and also thanks to thomas for his amazing driver. and by the way your instuctions are very easy to follow and you have made my year.
Thankyou.
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By Tek_No - Posted on June 18, 2005 - 20:47:34 (#16901)
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After struggling with the Radeon driver source for more than a month and changing codelines, rebooting about 1000 times, etc... I finally found a fix for the distorted lines as being displayed on my HP Pavilion ZT3010EA laptop...
So if you happen to own one of the HP Pavilion ZT3000, X1000 or NX7000 series of laptops or any other Ati Radeon 9000/9200/9600... based laptop (like Philippe's Asus W1N) suffering from distorted lines I guess I could have good news :)
After several emails with Rudolf C (thx for pointing me to the PLL) and the knowledge that the display is fine on e.g. Windows XP I decided to go through the code lines and try to figure out what was happening inside the driver.
First thing I needed were the correct display parameters as used by Windows XP as the buildin tft panel is working fine in there. The tool I used for this is called "PowerStrip" and can be downloaded at:
http://www.entechtaiwan.com/files/pstrip.exe
While in the tool you can display the so-called "Advanced Timing Options" (h-sync, v-sync, h-front-porch, v-front-porch, etc....). I took a screenprint of this window displayed in PowerStrip so I could boot into BeOS again and used these parameters somewhere in the driver...
Next thing we need is the source of Thomas' Radeon Driver (available here in BeBits). After unzipping the source goto folder:
../radeon/src/add-ons/kernel/drivers/graphics/radeon/
In there is a file called "bios.c": this is the one we need to change:
open it in e.g. StyledEdit and have a look for the following codeline:
di->fp_info.dot_clock = fpi_timing.dot_clock * 10;
this is the calculation of the "dot clock" (or "pixel clock" as called in PowerStrip) based on values received from the Radeon's BIOS.
Now have a look at the parameter called "Pixel Clock" as being displayed by PowerStrip: for my HP laptop the pixel clock value is: 70875
So we need to comment out the code line listed above and force our own value for the pixel clock:
/* di->fp_info.dot_clock = fpi_timing.dot_clock * 10; */
di->fp_info.dot_clock = 70875;
Now exit your "bios.c" StyledEdit session while saving the file. Ok, code is now fixed.
The only thing we still need to do now is to recompile the driver and replace the currently used one with the new compiled one:
Double-click the "radeon_driver.proj" file to open the driver's project:
- press ALT-U (or Project menu - Bring Up to Date): you'll see that "bios.c" is being updated
- press ALT-M (or Project menu - Make) to make the new driver
- close the project file
If your "make" was fine you'll see that there is a new version of the "radeon" driver in the same folder as the project file.
Now copy the driver to the folder called "copy radeon to here" (i.e. link to /boot/home/config/add-ons/kernel/drivers/bin/) and reboot your laptop.
If everything is fine you should now have a correct accelerated Radeon display :)
I tested this on Zeta Neo SP1 (vlc, firefox, Tracker.NewFS, BeShare, ...) but I guess it should be working on other versions of BeOS as well...
Please give me some feedback if this is working for you or not...
Take care,
Tek_No
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By hegdeprashanth1 - Posted on June 2, 2005 - 16:54:31 (#16779)
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I want to add support for AGP GART( I do not want to use PCI GART). I am not sure about what is the difference between the PCI GART and the AGP GART?.
If I set up an AGP GART what are the registers do I need to initialize?.( apart from AGP_BASE in the chipset and the MC_AGP_TOP registers ).
Appreciate any help!
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By Tek_No - Posted on May 28, 2005 - 01:21:34 (#16737)
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Just ran a test by connecting an external TFT screen (17inch BenQ) to my Pavilion:
- at 1280x800 I get a "Out of Range" error which is normal
- at 1024x768 I get a correct screen without the distorted lines so it has to be definitely the timing of the build-in tft screen (WXGA) of our laptops!!!
Thomas: ANY chance you can have a look at this or maybe allow us to change the timing of the build-in tft in the Radeon Screen preferences???
Please???
Take care,
Tek_No
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By Tek_No - Posted on May 27, 2005 - 16:55:29 (#16736)
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Hey Phillipe,
did you already try altering settings in app_server_settings (found in /boot/home/config/settings)?
Take care,
Tek_No
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By Tek_No - Posted on May 27, 2005 - 15:28:33 (#16735)
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Hi Philippe!
Well, if you read through all my related postings you'll find out that I have all the EXACT SAME issues on my Pavilion laptop!
I guess you're referring to the PowerStrip tools from EnTechTaiwan...
Same for me so: distorted lines when using the tft panel and correct display when using the external monitor.
Trying to take a screenshot from the distorted lines on BeOS results in a correct screenshot without the distorted lines being displayed.
To Thomas or Rudolf: is there a way to input these timing parameters in a config file so that the driver is taking these values instead of overwriting them with his own (bad) values?
Take care,
Tek_No
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By Philippe Houdoin - Posted on May 27, 2005 - 11:15:13 (#16733)
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> dunno how to fix...
... the driver timing adjustment/computation code to support newest cards clock timing ranges.
I can confirm too that's not a framebuffer corruption, as a simple screenshot capture test easily show it's fine there.
It's sad I can't find both free time and, well, skill(s) to fix this issue myself. :-(
- Philippe
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By Philippe Houdoin - Posted on May 27, 2005 - 11:06:00 (#16732)
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> or my display is displaying corrupted black lines
> all over the screen (e.g. when using the Ati driver
> as used in Zeta Neo SP1)
I've the same exact symptoms here too on a Asus W1N laptop with its integrated ATI Radeon 9600 Mobility.
At first, I just get a black screen.
After some hunt on the web, I modified the driver source code to change the way this card ID is handled.
It works (as in "no more black screen") but not perfectly: the screen is corrupted with small moving horizontal lines all over the display.
Same symptoms in all resolution and colorspace.
On external screen (CRT in my case, not try with a TFT display yet) it works fine. But, well, how to tell that: computer mobility is ruined that way! ;-)
I've reproduce the same exact symptoms under Windows using a tool (Powersomething, can't remember now) by changing just the clock timing setup.
Unfortunatly, trying to force the card to use a valid clock timing don't work, when I check the log it's always "adjusted" by the driver. I dunno how to fix
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By Tek_No - Posted on May 25, 2005 - 22:59:16 (#16726)
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So, when using the external monitor, what driver are you using then: vesa?
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By fanskapet - Posted on May 25, 2005 - 16:14:53 (#16725)
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Acer Ferrari 3200.. well yeah it works with an external monitor in Zeta.. not with the bebits radeon driver though.. then i'l get totally messed up graphics.. :/
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By Tek_No - Posted on May 25, 2005 - 15:49:53 (#16724)
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What model of laptop are you using?
Is an externally connected monitor working or not?
Take care,
Tek_No
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By fanskapet - Posted on May 25, 2005 - 12:36:03 (#16723)
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Well seems like well known error :) I myself has given up on BeOS, would be nice to have it on my lappie though... since everything else seems to be well supported.. everything important that is..
my ferrari racer :P
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By mahargwa - Posted on May 25, 2005 - 03:11:54 (#16722)
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I don't build software for BeOS, but I'm willing to try. Does anyone have tips on how to build the Radeon driver source for BeOS 4.5? Thanks!
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By rui_oliveira - Posted on May 17, 2005 - 00:49:10 (#16663)
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I will try to generate a log file tomorrow and will keep you informed.
bye
Rui
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By rui_oliveira - Posted on May 17, 2005 - 00:45:25 (#16662)
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Curious,
if I boot with an external monitor it works and I can switch to the laptop tft and disconnect the external monitor. But if I try to switch to another workspace when using the laptop tft I get the black screen again.
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By Tek_No - Posted on May 16, 2005 - 22:36:13 (#16661)
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FYI: some more info on what I've been testing so far can be read at:
http://yellowtab.com/phorum/phorum.php?read,30,115222
Take care,
Tek_No
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By Tek_No - Posted on May 16, 2005 - 22:32:10 (#16660)
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Hi Rui,
yes, I'm using a HP Pavilion ZT3000 series laptop (so very similar to your model).
I've tested several versions of the driver and none of these are working correctly for me:
- or my display is displaying corrupted black lines all over the screen (e.g. when using the Ati driver as used in Zeta Neo SP1)
- or I have a black screen showing nothing at all
My ZT3000 (ZT3010EA) has a build-in 15 inch wide-screen tft panel: is yours using the same panel?
FYI: I also need to disable BIOS calls on my laptop...
Can you have a look in your log file (see Talkback comments posted earlier in this thread to find out how to enable output logging) and check if the tft panel is being detected correctly?
My display panel is being listed as SEC (sec00) on BeOS (also checked this by booting Knoppix on my laptop and Knoppix is showing the same panel though working correctly)...
After reviewing the output I have the feeling that there may be a problem with the refresh rate or something else being miscalculated in the driver when it's outputting to the build-in tft panel. When connecting an external monitor I don't have the corrupted black lines! Is your external monitor output correctly being displayed?
Thomas: whenever you read this: can you PLEASE have a look at this????
The number of BeOS/Zeta/PhOS users using a HP Pavilion series laptop (NX7000 X1000 and ZT3000 series) is bigger than you could imagine!!!!!
Whenever there is something you would like us Pavilion users to test: just yell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take care,
Tek_No
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By dr_evil - Posted on May 16, 2005 - 04:04:45 (#16647)
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i have exactly the same problem with my hp compaq nc4000. there is a ati igp 350m ("radeon 7000 mobility") inside.
the symptoms are exactly the same here (black screen, but the system seem to work otherwise). i haven't found any solution yet...
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By rui_oliveira - Posted on May 15, 2005 - 23:20:39 (#16645)
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Hi there,
i have a compaq nx7010 with a mobility radeon 9200 (PCI Id 4c66). When I use this driver all I get is a black screen. The system doesn't hang up, it just doesn't have image. Otherwise everything is working ok (I have a VNC server installed and with it I can use the computer).
One thing that may have importance i that in order to boot the computer I have to use the "dont call the bios" option in the boot menu.
Has anyone used this driver with this or similar compaq model?
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By mudd - Posted on May 11, 2005 - 22:15:17 (#16599)
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Hi !
I'm glad to be able to use my 9200se in my beos box now.
All seems to work fine,except when using the tv (s-video) out:
As soon as I want to play a video ,whether this is a dvd or some avi file,the system locks up,while this doesn't happen in safe-video mode.
Has anyone encountered this problem too? if so I'd be happy to hear the solution!
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By Tek_No - Posted on April 11, 2005 - 14:16:25 (#16358)
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When you're using safe mode (disabled user-addons) it's using the BeOS VESA driver so NOT the Radeon driver (as this is installed as a user add-on by default).
So this should explain why you get a correct but non-Radeon-accelerated desktop...
About the kernel configuration file: there should be a file called "kernel" in /boot/home/config/settings/kernel/drivers/
Open this file with e.g. StyledEdit and uncomment (remove the # in front of the line) the line reading something like "debug output to syslog".
Now reboot WITHOUT safe mode (so you're actually using the Radeon driver and get the black screen as desktop).
Shutdown (power down) and reboot again: have a look in /etc/var/logs file "syslog"... The output of the Radeon driver should now be in the syslog file!
Take care,
Tek_No
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By ibn - Posted on April 11, 2005 - 12:33:43 (#16357)
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Hi.
Thanks for your help!
If I boot in safe mode and be disable the user-addons, and change to video mode to 1280 * 768 * 16, it works in colour!
But if I leave user addons enabled, then it doesn't work!
I don't know how to change the kernel setting file, but can you suggest what the problem is here because it works if I change the safe mode setting, otherwise not.
Thanks.
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By Tek_No - Posted on April 11, 2005 - 00:11:44 (#16356)
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Hey ibn,
well: 0x5961 is your Radeon ID.
Just checked "detect.c" and your Radeon's ID is included in Thomas's driver:
{ DEVICE_ID_RADEON_Za, rt_rv280, "Radeon 9200" }
So a RV280 based card (= RV250 with a higher frequency).
Try booting in safe mode (press space-bar at boot time) and be sure to disable the user-addons. If this is not working for you can also try to enable Safe Video and select VGA or a VESA mode for display.
Be sure to also activate syslog output (see previous reply) so you can have a look if the Radeon driver is 1) picking up your card and 2) picking the correct screen to send the output to...
Take care,
Tek_No
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By ibn - Posted on April 10, 2005 - 22:35:36 (#16355)
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Hi Tek_No
Thanks for your reply.
I don't know how to check the ID under BeOS, but I checked under Windows and the details are:
Manufacturer: ATI Tech. - Enhanced
Chip Type: Radeon 9200 AGP (0x5961) Rev 1
DAC Type: Internal
My computer is a AMD Athlon K7 (700) with 256 Mb RAM and an ASUS motherboard.
I can't change anything in BeOS now because whenever it starts up the screen is black so I can't use it.
I will try to boot up in safe mode.
Thanks for your help.
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By Tek_No - Posted on April 10, 2005 - 22:27:42 (#16354)
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Hey ibn,
what ID is your Radeon 9200 Pro using?
If you let us know we can check to see if it's already concluded in Thomas' driver...
You can also boot in safe video mode while using vesa or maybe disable the user-addons (as Thomas's driver is installed by default as a user-addon).
A lot of useful information can be found in /var/logs/syslog (be sure to activate syslog output in your kernel settings file or nothing will be written to syslog)...
Most probably the driver is being loaded but an incorrect screen is being used.
Can you also give us some more info about your machine?
Take care,
Tek_No
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By ibn - Posted on April 10, 2005 - 21:03:19 (#16352)
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Hi.
I did a fresh install of BeOS 5 Personal Edition. I installed this driver because I have a Radeon 9200 AGP card which would only display 640*480 balck and white.
After installing the driver, and rebooting, the screen came up black (after the normal bootup screen).
I tried this twice.
Any suggestions?
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By tqh - Posted on April 1, 2005 - 08:55:39 (#16263)
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Well, I'm not the developer. I just have a laptop with a modified Radeon driver :) I have a Centrino 1,7GHz btw.
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By Tek_No - Posted on March 31, 2005 - 23:39:45 (#16261)
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Hey TQH,
here's a copy of my email back to you with the results of the patched driver:
Hey TQH :)
Thanks for the speedy reply!
In the mean time I've been testing this and here are the results:
- today I flashed both my laptop bios and my Radeon's bios to be the latest version
- reinstalled PhOS b6: got some very weird colors now but at least I got some colors (and not grayscale)
- after installation and calling the Radeon Screen and changing the resolution to 1280x800, 32-bit color and a refresh of 60 or 70 and hitting Apply the display is correct
- after working for a couple of seconds PhOS freezes and hangs
- as Phos B6 is NOT using version 5.1 of the Radeon driver I downloaded this version from BeBits and overwrote the file as found in your email
- after a reboot PhOS doesn't freeze anymore: nice
- BUT: now I have the same distorted lines through my video as the ones showed while (or after) installing Zeta Neo
So to resume: I guess you're right about the newer Intel cpus (in fact it's a Centrino 1.4ghz) and the freezing part of BeOS but the distorted video problem is still not solved :(
There has to be a difference with the Radeon version installed by default in PhOS and the latest version 5.1... Maybe a combination of the driver used by PhOS and the patch on this version would work correctly...
Thx for trying to help me out on this!
Take care,
Tek_No
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By kvdman - Posted on March 31, 2005 - 19:53:46 (#16258)
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to me to please
karl at karlvd dot com
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By requiemus - Posted on March 31, 2005 - 18:59:48 (#16257)
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tqh please send me the driver that works with the newer intel. your help is greatly appreciated.
requiemus@insightbb.com
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By tqh - Posted on March 31, 2005 - 13:25:44 (#16252)
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I had problems that it hang with garbled display on my new laptop, apparently it had to do with newer intel based processors and the driver. If you want the to test the patched driver I've got mail me, thesuckiestemail "this sentence is not part of email address" @ "neither is this" yahoo.se
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By Tek_No - Posted on March 31, 2005 - 11:42:40 (#16249)
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Hi,
I've got a "Brand New" (second-hand) HP Pavilion ZT3010EA laptop using a Radeon 9200 Mobility for video.
HP says it's a 9200 but in fact it's a 9000 as its pci-id is 4c66.
I checked the sources of the Radeon driver and the 4c66 seems to be supported.
However whenever the driver is being activated I get a distorted video display: all kinds of black and white lines are corrupting the display. At first look you would say that the video is interfering with another device although this is only a personal impression.
I tested this on both Zeta Neo SP1 and PhOS b6: Zeta Neo detects the card even at installation time (for PhOS I installed the 5.1 package) but same problem: distorted display.
I tried Windows XP and the display is fine here so it's not a hardware problem.
Yesterday evening I posted this also on the PhOS user forum and there is at least 1 person (Theophanus) having a similar setup that is having the exact same problem!
Is there ANYBODY who can help me out with this: I finally got an up-to-date laptop now to run BeOS but my video is not usable :(
Thanks for any input on this :)
Take care,
Tek_No
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By filpio - Posted on March 29, 2005 - 20:24:39 (#16236)
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Why there is no support for a radeon 9550? Its almost the same with a radeon 9600 with is now supported. Is there any chance to 9550 supports?
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