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MIDI support

By korli - Posted on April 10, 2006 - 11:15:08 (#19407)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

MIDI isn't enabled at the moment, because of lack of successful testing.
There is a flag in emuxki.h to enable MIDI. Feel free to test and feedback, and source patchs are welcome.

SB Live MIDI Port

By Cyan - Posted on April 10, 2006 - 05:27:19 (#19403)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

If you want to use the SB Live's MIDI port for output, you could try using the driver included with Dano. If that doesn't work, it's possible to hack existing drivers to make them work, such as the MPU-401 drivers.

MIDI input is another matter. Even the Dano drivers don't support MIDI input. The SB Live isn't standard in this respect, there's some kind of extra step you need to perform to enable the interrupts, which doesn't appear to be documented anywhere.

That being said, it is possible to get the MIDI input working using polling; I've written a program that does that; it runs as a program rather than a driver. I suppose polling is a bad idea, but it provides pretty good timing (within 300 microseconds).

That's not too bad compared to many of the existing MIDI drivers for BeOS, which seem to return B_HANDLED_INTERRUPT instead of B_INVOKE_SCHEDULER, causing a terrible 3 millisecond jitter on everything...

I could probably dig the program out if you're interested. It isn't pretty, but it worked for me. =P

The MIDI port??

By mario - Posted on April 10, 2006 - 02:26:06 (#19400)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

It doesn't seem to be supported, either with this or the original driver?! I am really bummed because.

SB Live! 24-bit

By ivanhasyou - Posted on November 13, 2005 - 18:30:24 (#18321)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

Any chance of getting this card to work?

audigy 0x1102 is working here

By rala - Posted on August 19, 2005 - 23:46:17 (#17504)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

i have a soundblaster audigy 2 zs retail pci card -
card id 4,
device type: base 4, subtype 1, interface 0
vendor id (0x1102) -
works like a charm with haiku emuxki driver with all zeta neo versions, r1 and old 5.0.3.

By korli - Posted on August 19, 2005 - 23:04:33 (#17503)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

This driver doesn't support all Creative audio products. The product you described isn't supported. Sorry.

update to below post

By BeOS Mr X - Posted on August 19, 2005 - 22:33:37 (#17502)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

I have an enlarged detailed photo if whoever needs it to answer my question
http://www.ixbt.com/multimedia/creative-live!24bit/card-big.jpg

will this work with " CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER LIVE 24-BIT PCI OEM" ?

By BeOS Mr X - Posted on August 19, 2005 - 22:24:15 (#17500)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

you can see it here.
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=12840&promoid=1026
creative site:
http://creative.com/products/product.asp?category=1&subcategory=206&product=10315&nav=0

some of the messages on ncix.com was about the emu10k1 for linux driver. If you go to the bottom of the page, all the messages are there.

I want to get this, does it work for this driver?

@ Eddyspeeder

By BeOS Mr X - Posted on August 19, 2005 - 21:49:12 (#17499)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

BTW- I've had problems with an OEM soundblaster live! 5.1 also.
(like when installs, get's kernell debugging land and freezing)
To fix the problem, I just used a generic emu10k chip on a less fancy soundblaster, it sounds just fine.
And I gave the card to someone using win98.

SB Live! 5.1

By Eddyspeeder - Posted on August 15, 2005 - 21:27:29 (#17478)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

I'm having trouble with a SB Live! 5.1 that someone gave me. I just figured out others have no problems with it so it *could* be a malfunctioning card. Because I have to boot in safe mode I can't look up device info. I'll keep you up to date on that.

My other card is a SB Live! Value/1024, and that one works flawlessly ever since I've been using the Emuxki driver (and that's well over a year, maybe 2 years).

The info of the WORKING card (Value/1024) is:
Card ID: 2
(Base: 4 Subtype: 1 Interface: 0)

no sound from line-in

By hendrix_rulz - Posted on July 11, 2005 - 19:44:06 (#17175)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

I'm not getting any sound from the line-in of my sound card, either. Therefore, I'm not getting any audio from my TV card. Everything's unmuted and turned all the way up on the mixer for the sound card. Is there any way I can get the line-in to work? (I have an Audigy2 ZS Platinum card.)

By _JuDgEn_ - Posted on March 12, 2005 - 00:25:59 (#16117)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

We tried to compile with the deviceid = 8
But it didnt work as the driver isnt working on Audigy Value cards.

to _JuDgEn_

By korli - Posted on March 7, 2005 - 13:51:26 (#16087)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

The card id you provide is only the vendor id. This driver doesn't support all Creative products ... only some of them listed on the main page

This card does not work.

By _JuDgEn_ - Posted on March 7, 2005 - 12:42:32 (#16085)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

It is an audigy and everything should work. but it doesnt.
the card id is "Creative Labs (0x1102)"
Very strange indeed.

By j.difool - Posted on February 7, 2005 - 20:35:45 (#15738)
Current version when comment was posted: 20050203

Will this driver function with the Audigy2 ZS Notebook PCMCIA soundcard? Or do you have plans to support it?

http://www.soundblaster.com/products/audigy2zs_notebook/

Thanks,
J. Difool

Works perfect now!

By Fredde - Posted on January 31, 2005 - 21:44:56 (#15644)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Both SD's and CVS version works. No more KDL.
Thanks

/Fredrik Ekdahl

2 ekdahl - link fixed for no crash version:

By SD - Posted on January 29, 2005 - 19:51:57 (#15623)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

http://beos.spb.ru/fyysik/emuxki-no-crash-here.zip

We are working with Korli to get my changes in CVS and thus any additional tester it very appreciated!

RE: to chalk

By chalk - Posted on January 29, 2005 - 18:53:07 (#15621)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

korli,

Thanks for the test package but still no sound; the sound card does not show up in the media settings. If I could be of some assistance getting this card supported please email me.

chalk

By korli - Posted on January 29, 2005 - 15:23:07 (#15618)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Audigy 2 Value isn't supported ATM.

I made a test package with untested support. Please let me know your experience with it.

http://jerome.duval.free.fr/obos/haiku-emuxki-cvs-20050129.zip

Thanks.

By chalk - Posted on January 28, 2005 - 02:38:34 (#15603)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

The sound does not work for my Audigy2 model SB0400 card.

Card info via preferences/devices/sound/info:
device type: base 4 subtype 1 interface 0
vendor: creative labs (0x1102)
card id 8

Tried switching card slots, still a no go.

Anyone with the same card and model# have sound working?

chalk

By ekdahl - Posted on January 21, 2005 - 14:44:30 (#15489)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

The download isn't working.
Could you please send your source changes to Jerome so the CVS can get updated with the fixes?
I'm in desperate need of this driver without KDL crash :-)

non-KDL driver needs testing - get it here

By SD - Posted on December 28, 2004 - 21:41:34 (#15203)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

For those who had problem with emuxki driver bringing your system into KDL crash.
It seems i found doubtful place in code and tried to fix it.
You can get this (i hope) fixed version from here:
http://beos.spb.ru/fyysik/emuxki_fyysik.zip

Besides fixed "emuxki" driver itself, there is also fixed source file multi.c in that archive.
(Search for memcpy there in multi.c)

Tip: how to avoid KDL

By SD - Posted on December 26, 2004 - 19:40:39 (#15180)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

For some of us this driver causes KDL crash.
I managed to get rid of that by editing BootScript.
Moved MediaServer starting section in the very end of script, somewhere after Tracker and Deskbar start.
No more KDL

vlc surround sound code

By tb100 - Posted on November 27, 2004 - 14:18:07 (#14869)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Sergei,

I would like to see the source, please send it to - simonREMOVECAPStaylor2ATgawabDOTcom - however I never managed to get vlc to build on the last occasions I tried. Also firefox is taking a lot of time at the moment, but I'll see what I can do. You would certainly get credit for it.

Cheers,
Simon

By s_d - Posted on November 25, 2004 - 19:52:41 (#14860)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Actually code was 100% working. With Haiku mixer and multiaudio add-on.
Though, it required some correction in Haiku BSoundPlayer-originated code which i includuded there.
Correction was related to setting autotesting/autoselect for BeOS (mixer) playback capabilities - 6 channels (Haiku), 4 channels (native new media kit, e.g. MKB1, Dano or Zeta) or two channels (R4 API used also in all 5.0* versions).
I can send that all to you, if you have energy to finish it (4 channel testing weren't done) and put somewhere credits for me.

By tb100 - Posted on November 25, 2004 - 19:03:07 (#14859)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Could you put the code you have so far into a patch on vlc's bugzilla? I've been struggling writing code to put different stuff through my 5.1 channels, it'd be good to see an example of (almost) working code.

Thanks

Simon

KDL here too

By s_d - Posted on November 25, 2004 - 17:38:56 (#14858)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

I already reported it once.
What i noticed, it happens here in cold boot.
But once i have booted in another BeOS install with Dano/MediaKitBeta driver for SB Live (1102 gamedriver) and then rebooted to partition with emuxki, it has big chances to start normally.
Second similar issue (same SB Live but on anither motherboard - it goes into generation after cold boot. Hot reboot from this state removes generation.
Actually this problem stopped my work on multichannel audio support in VLC which i almost completed.

KDL

By Sabin - Posted on November 25, 2004 - 15:52:15 (#14857)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

I get a KDL in media-addon thread every other reboot. It doesn't matter if I'm using alpha 10 or the CVS version, or which sound mixer I'm using (R5, alpha 6, or CVS). I'm using a SoundBlaster Live on R5.03 on a PII 400/Intel 440BX MB. Using the MultiAudio Media Addon (alpha 6 or CVS) by itself works fine. Any ideas?

Realplayer / SB Live problem?

By Cyan - Posted on September 21, 2004 - 23:59:35 (#14231)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Hi,
I've been using these drivers with R5 in conjunction with the Multiaudio MediaAddon and the beta media kit for some time now with my SB Live, and overall, it's working very nicely; the sound quality is higher than the windows drivers when playing 44KHz material, and I can now use the higher-quality 'rear' outputs in BeOS ( the 'front' outputs blew up and required a resoldering job anyway, thanks to creative's awful engineering! )

Anyway, getting to the point, there is one oddity I've noticed, and that's with the RealPlayer that comes with R5 Pro.
Most streams play back just fine without any issue at all. However, when attempting to play back a stream with *stereo* audio, a problem surfaces -- the audio is intermittent and "choppy".

I've tested this under both the beta media kit, and the original R5 media kit, with the Multiaudio MediaAddon and the Emuxki drivers, and the problem always occurs.
However, using the R5 Emu10k drivers with any version of media kit, playback is good, not choppy.

The "choppyness" I describe takes the form of equally spaced blank spaces in the audio, as if a gate was rapidly opening and closing on the audio. The audio plays back at the same speed and pitch as before, and video synchronization is good; just that half of each audio buffer is missing. This only happens with stereo RealPlayer audio.

Taking a guess at the cause of this problem, it sounds like there's been a mix-up between frames and samples somewhere. It's as if a routine that copies audio buffers is copying (frames_count*bytespersample) instead of (sample_count*bytespersample), leaving half of the destination buffer empty, and half of the source uncopied.
The curious thing, however, is the way RealPlayer works fine with the R5 drivers, and every other application that plays stereo audio works fine with the Emuxki drivers; it's just this specific combination that invites trouble.

To describe the symptom another way, the audible effect is as follows:

original audio: 123456789ABCDEF
output audio: 1-3-5-7-9-B-D-F

Each of the numbers represents a collection of samples. "-" represents silence. The audio plays back at the same pitch and speed as before, but half of the information is "nulled", as if the amplifier were rapidly being switched on and off.

I've not noticed this problem with any other application, so it sounds like it's some kind of bug in RealPlayer that's interacting with the Emuxki drivers or the Multiaudio MediaAddon, rather than a bug in the drivers.

Any idea if there's a workaround for this?

By Abraham_Sapien - Posted on August 2, 2004 - 00:31:31 (#13691)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Got the card to work.

I turned on Bus Mastering in my Bios (thanks to Scanty on BeShare), and Vola. Sound. Works wonderfully.

Still nogo/IRQs

By Abraham_Sapien - Posted on August 1, 2004 - 22:43:03 (#13690)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Thats the excate same card I have.

I have tried moving it around in the PCI cards- from slot 4 to 3, to 2 and 1. Still nothing.

I noticed that BeOS doesn't report any IRQ Settings, just IO Ranges (everything else is blank) under Devices for any of my PCI/AGP cards, ie, Radeon, Network, Sound. They all report no other settings then IO Ranges. The stuff on the motherboard has IRQ's assigned to them, but nothing for the PCI/AGP Cards, and BeOS won't let me change them in any way.

I think this is a motherboard problem or something.. I don't know, the missing IRQ thing is somewhat strange. What could I be missing?

tell us more...

By rala - Posted on August 1, 2004 - 21:15:49 (#13689)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

i also have an audigy 2 zs and works fine with superb sound.
worked on abit bp6 with 440 bx chipset and dual cel 500
now on msi 694 d pro with kt 133 and i love it.
i also installed emuxki driver, mixer, multimedia addon.

my card info via preferences/devices/sound/info:

device type: base 4 subtype 1 interface 0
vendor: creative labs (0x1102)
card id 4

enabled without resource conflicts

what about your card ?
ever tried another slot ?

Audigy 2 ZS Runaround

By Abraham_Sapien - Posted on August 1, 2004 - 19:30:16 (#13688)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Whoo. I love creative..
After finding out the hard way Audigy LS's don't have a EMU10Kx chipset, I just bought a Audigy 2 ZS. This card actually shows up under my BeOS Computer just fine- as a Emuxki Audigy 2. I've installed this package, the Mixer, and the MultiMedia addon.

As I said, it shows up just fine. I can change the controls under Preferences->Media, however, out of the infinite ports on the back of the thing I get absolutely nothing.. No sound. No clicks, chirps, ditto. I might add that this is a REAL Audigy- there is no reason why it isn't working, the chip phsyically says Audigy 2 on it and it has FireWire, as well as the ports that a Audigy Platinum would have, etc (Same card as the Audigy 2 ZS Platinum).

I noticed that Soundplay, and CL-Amp won't even attempt to play anything. If I load up a MP3, tell it to play, they both don't bother starting; ie, the Time counter remains at 00:00, regardless of repetitivly clicking Play..

I thought this was a BIOS Issue so I downgraded it to a previous version. Nogo, same results. I even nuked my 5.1d0 and reinstalled my 5 Pro with the same setup, nogo.

I'm out of suggestions... Any ideas? My system specs are as follows:

HP Kayak XU:
-Intel 440BX Chipset
-256mb (4x64mb) PC100 RAM
-Dual P3/550mhz (S1)
-Radeon 9000 AIW 64mb/AGP
-Creative Audigy 2 ZS
-DEC/SMC PCI 10/100 Network
-Onboard single-channel IDE
-Adaptec Onboard SCSI (2x4gb for BeOS)

re:dr_no - on-fly help

By SD - Posted on July 30, 2004 - 01:21:33 (#13655)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Try to ask people directly at BeShare or BeOS IRC channel at irc.freenode.org.
maybe "online"-hacking of your problem will be more resultative. As thre will be chance to try severla solutions faster and detect the reason of problem.

And have some patience there, until someone who met similar problem will appear here.

I'll recommend also to read all talkback for those two drivers i mentioned + related tips at www.betips.net.

As you failed with two more or less supported different audiocards, there may be some simple but "stupid" misunderstanding, i believe.

Still no sound on Ensoniq 1373 ... getting desperate

By dr_no - Posted on July 30, 2004 - 01:04:33 (#13654)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Installed the drivers (tried both) and had BIOS PnP disabled. Restarted media_server and rebooted. Still no sound! I must be the only sucker for whom it doesn't work :-(((

Am I doing something wrong when installing the driver/s? I now have only Ensoniq (identified as 1371) and None listed in the media_server. How does media_server knows which driver to use with particular card/chipset?

By SD - Posted on July 28, 2004 - 22:56:03 (#13637)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

about ensoniq 1373
remove old crap for BeOS R4 you installed previously (IMHO it MUST be deleted from bebits!)
and try two other ensoniq drivers:
http://bebits.com/app/2271
http://bebits.com/app/2796
also don forget to set PnP OS = NO in BIOS if possible

No sound on my SoundBlaster Live!

By dr_no - Posted on July 28, 2004 - 01:08:33 (#13618)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Ok, I have have plugged the SB Live! into PCI slot and installed the latest driver. I can see the card is recognised by the media server, but I'm not getting any sound. I got the card specifically for BeOS since my onboard Ensoniq 1373 didn't work either.

I have Boston Acoustics BA635 set comprising of 2 speakers + subwoofer. I have plugged the only jack into card out (green). I'm not sure what the black output on the SB Live! card is for?

Also, what does 1/2 1/3 1/4 ... etc in media server mean?

SB Live! Value no good

By ryanknapper - Posted on July 2, 2004 - 20:10:50 (#13188)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

The sound is scratchy and slow and unusable.

cold boot issues

By s_d - Posted on June 26, 2004 - 00:09:32 (#13038)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

It seems that i was too fast in report success wuth previous posting.
In cold boot cvs version still KDL-s, this time in media-add-on thread (sorry, no symbols yet). But when installed on running system and then rebooted - it works.

But there was another cold boot issue too, on much more safer system - single Duron 800 MHz (via KT 266 686). - Frequently starting machine from cold state SB Live (emu10k1) failed in generating (2-4 Khz approximitely).
Media server restart did't help. Only measure was restart of BeOS without switching power off.

Maybe those incidents together may shed some light in possible issues in initialization process. I will try more debugging, too, as promised.

Re:DualCPU - works now.

By s_d - Posted on June 25, 2004 - 14:08:03 (#13029)
Current version when comment was posted: Latest CVS

Tried cvs-build published here. No crash yet.



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